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Offline omorr  
#1 Posted : 25 June 2012 11:17:37(UTC)
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Hello,

Look at this please
f:el(x,1)^3+el(x,2)^3

This is correct:
diff(diff(f,el(x,1)),el(x,2))=0

But this is obviously wrong:
v0.95
diff(diff(f,el(x,2)),el(x,1))=-el(x,2)*(-1+el(x,2))

It seems that is still present in v.90 as well:
v0.90
diff(diff(f,el(x,2)),el(x,1))—-(-1+el(x,2))*el(x,2)

In v0.89.8 you will get the right answer - zeros for both mixed derivatives.

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Edited by user 25 June 2012 11:21:40(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#2 Posted : 30 July 2012 10:14:57(UTC)
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Hello,

This is still present in 0.95 build 4594 (30 July 2012).

Any comments?

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#3 Posted : 31 July 2012 01:59:59(UTC)
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Hi omorr, Good

Originally Posted by: omorr Go to Quoted Post
Hello,

This is still present in 0.95 build 4594 (30 July 2012).

Any comments?

Regards,
Radovan

I confirm!

seem related to the symbolic simplification (see the attachments)


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Edited by user 31 July 2012 02:03:47(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#4 Posted : 09 October 2012 02:26:09(UTC)
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Here some (probably) related issues.


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#5 Posted : 10 October 2012 23:33:54(UTC)
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It's the way SMath handles/prioritizes ASCII characters. I ran into a similar issue with MathCAD. In this case, the second variable of "x" (in the equation) has to be the first variable of the first derivative as shown in w3b5urf3r's screen shot.
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#6 Posted : 03 May 2013 23:11:41(UTC)
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Hello,

I must be boring with this Blush , but I think there is neither solution nor satisfactory explanation of this "glitch" regarding second derivatives.
Still present in 0.96

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#7 Posted : 03 May 2013 23:23:02(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 03 May 2013 23:32:12(UTC)
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Yes, I know. Thank you Good . I did it on purpose, just to put the stress that maple did it right.

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